So I'm not going to rehash the discussions you can easily read online about McCain's VP nominee. I just want to ask people their thoughts on this idea: if McCain were to croak while in office, would you be comfortable with Sarah Palin as your president?

Really?

The most aggravating thing about all of this is the blatant pandering to the Hillary Clinton supporters. Anyone who was pro-Hillary and decides to vote for McCain because he's put a woman in a puppet position (and just to spite Obama) really ought to turn in their voter registration cards.

Voting for John McCain is not a better option. Unless, of course, you like the way things are going for you these days, and apparently that's true for about 1% of the population (that is, the percent who are rich).

I'll say it right here: I hate the two-party system. There are loads of things that the Democrats have done that angers me beyond reason, but they're still the best of our two choices at this point. If you were pro-Hillary in the past, you've got to see that.

Don't be fooled by this ridiculous tactic! Please use your brains!

That's not asking for too much, is it?

Date: 2008-09-01 09:03 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] seussian-logic.livejournal.com
No, I would most certainly not be comfortable with Sarah Palin as President, but then again I'm not voting with the Republican Party. I'm supporting Barack Obama, even though I don't see eye-to-eye with him on several policies. I think he would do better than John McCain, though, so he's worth a dice-roll as far as I'm concerned.

However, I don't think the pandering is a huge deal. In fact, it's fairly trivial compared to his hypocritical choice to choose someone as inexperienced as Palin. His campaign's flag-ship was that Obama was young and inexperienced. They sunk that ship to the bottom of Davy Jones' Locker with Palin coming on board as VP though.

Even if Hillary supporters decide to vote for McCain, I'm not going to criticize them, however. It's their choice. What a lot of people forget is that a large portion of Obama's support comes from African Americans who are voting for him in whole or in part because of his race. Anyone who has argued or agreed with the idea that there is nothing wrong with an African American voting for Obama on the basis of race really has no right to criticize women voters who will be voting for Palin in whole or in part because of her gender. Fair is fair.

Pandering is just a natural part of politics. The party that fails to pander "correctly" generally loses the election. I would've applauded McCain's tactics had he chosen a more qualified woman, such as Kay Bailey Hutchison, Elizabeth Dole, Olympia Snowe, or Meg Whitman. Unfortunately, this is not the case.

I'll call McCain a hypocrite for choosing a young and inexperienced woman when he was accusing Obama of the exact same thing as down-fallings, but not for pandering to women voters.

Date: 2008-09-02 12:53 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] marenpaisley.livejournal.com
Those are fair points, especially that of McCain's hypocrisy; however, it would still anger me to no end if people voted for McCain just because of his vice presidential running mate's gender. While it's the right of the people to vote for whom they choose, if their reason for doing so is based solely on the candidate's race and/or gender, then we're in a greater heap of trouble than I suspected, and I reserve the right to criticize them.

Also, the subject of pandering has been a big deal here in my home state of Pennsylvania, which Hillary Clinton won in the primaries. I suppose my post was more in reaction to our local news media's discourse. There are a lot of Clinton supporters here, and some of them will not vote for Obama simply because of his race (you'd think we'd escaped that, being above the Mason-Dixon line, but that's sadly not the case). To them, the better alternative is to go back to the status-quo and throw their support behind the old white man, and it quite frankly sickens me.

On a lighter note, it's nice to hear someone else's views, so welcome!

Date: 2008-09-02 01:35 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] seussian-logic.livejournal.com
Thank you for the welcome!

I was initially a supporter of Hillary, though she certainly had a few gaffes that had me perking my eyebrow. I really wish she would've been able to "shatter the ceiling", but we've always got 2012 I suppose.

I've made the transition to Obama fairly easy, though I'm not quite so far left as he. Still, I like his idealism, and I think he'll be a whole heckuva lot better for the U.S. than McCain. I just hope he manages to live up to his words, and really validate our hopes that he can bring about change.

Date: 2008-09-02 11:51 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] marenpaisley.livejournal.com
Still, I like his idealism, and I think he'll be a whole heckuva lot better for the U.S. than McCain. I just hope he manages to live up to his words, and really validate our hopes that he can bring about change.

Agreed! In our unfortunate two-party system, I, too, am fervently supporting Obama despite some reservations that I have with a few of his policies (I am, admittedly, quite liberal :D). I definitely see him as a vast improvement over a possible John McCain-lead administration. It's great hearing from like-minded people; it gives me some hope. :D

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